Barbie and Ellen were on Paul Berenson's radio show last Saturday (you know Paul — the painter and classical DJ who now hosts Santa Barbara's only home-grown liberal talk show) to talk about University of Michigan football (Barbie's a faithful alum), red county/blue county politics, and — ta da — "The Fourth Wall."
The audio about the play is here.
And if you want to hear the whole show (or any of his other shows — he's had a great roster of guests) you can do so at Paul's own website. (You can hear our entire segment in the third hour — we start about half-way through.)
